1 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,630 [Music] 2 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:24,800 welcome everybody to a very special 3 00:00:29,589 --> 00:00:26,480 episode of somewhere in 4 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:29,599 the spooky skies and joining me today is 5 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:32,000 no stranger to the show you know him 6 00:00:36,150 --> 00:00:33,280 from rogue planet 7 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:36,160 you know him from so many other projects 8 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:36,880 as well 9 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:39,600 and while we usually talk about ufos and 10 00:00:43,030 --> 00:00:40,399 aliens 11 00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:43,040 we are taking a departure this week to 12 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:43,440 talk 13 00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:46,879 about supernatural spooky stuff 14 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:49,280 um some of our own personal stories and 15 00:00:53,590 --> 00:00:50,640 ones that we find 16 00:00:55,270 --> 00:00:53,600 extremely unsettling weird and creepy 17 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:55,280 and that person i'm talking about is 18 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:56,160 none other 19 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:59,120 than jason mcclellan how you doing buddy 20 00:01:01,670 --> 00:00:59,520 i 21 00:01:02,869 --> 00:01:01,680 am wonderful mr sprague how about 22 00:01:04,789 --> 00:01:02,879 yourself 23 00:01:06,710 --> 00:01:04,799 not bad not bad you know all things 24 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:06,720 considered with what's going on in the 25 00:01:11,190 --> 00:01:08,720 world this has been a fun time 26 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:11,200 to kind of you know like i said shed our 27 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:12,000 ufo 28 00:01:15,749 --> 00:01:14,320 armor and uh get to the heart of all 29 00:01:16,870 --> 00:01:15,759 these other things you and i 30 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:16,880 are interested in whether it's 31 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:19,040 paranormal supernatural cryptids 32 00:01:22,870 --> 00:01:20,640 and i don't know about you but it's 33 00:01:24,310 --> 00:01:22,880 refreshing to really kind of stretch 34 00:01:25,109 --> 00:01:24,320 your mind every now and again and 35 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:25,119 realize 36 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:26,799 there's a whole world out there of other 37 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,360 weird stuff going on 38 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:31,600 definitely man i mean you said it and 39 00:01:35,270 --> 00:01:32,479 you know that's 40 00:01:37,350 --> 00:01:35,280 why you and i do rogue planet i mean 41 00:01:39,749 --> 00:01:37,360 that's the whole point of rogue planet 42 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:39,759 you know we are fans of all the strange 43 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:40,799 and we are 44 00:01:43,830 --> 00:01:43,040 curious individuals and that curiosity 45 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:43,840 doesn't stop 46 00:01:49,749 --> 00:01:47,360 at ufos there's lots of mysterious 47 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:49,759 unknowns in the in the world in on our 48 00:01:54,550 --> 00:01:51,520 planet and in the universe 49 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,560 as a whole so i mean we love it we eat 50 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:56,640 it up and that's why we do what we do 51 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:00,399 exactly exactly and you mentioned uh um 52 00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:02,799 you know all the strange for those who 53 00:02:05,749 --> 00:02:03,520 haven't 54 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:05,759 go to the rogue planet tv youtube right 55 00:02:09,270 --> 00:02:07,360 now we did an entire 56 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,280 virtual conference of all the strange 57 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:11,599 whether it's paranormal cryptids 58 00:02:14,710 --> 00:02:14,000 ufos cults everything you could think of 59 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:14,720 we had 60 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:17,360 amazing guests for that who's dedicated 61 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:18,879 their time and talents 62 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:21,040 to do this for free so you can watch the 63 00:02:23,589 --> 00:02:23,040 entire virtual conference for free right 64 00:02:26,470 --> 00:02:23,599 now 65 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:26,480 at the rogue planet tv youtube channel 66 00:02:30,309 --> 00:02:28,560 subscribe click notifications 67 00:02:32,390 --> 00:02:30,319 but um yeah then we're gonna we're gonna 68 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:32,400 talk spooky stuff today i'm excited i 69 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:33,760 asked you to come on here 70 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:36,480 for a little bit and um share with us 71 00:02:40,150 --> 00:02:38,319 some stories that have happened to you 72 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:40,160 personally or ones you find 73 00:02:43,670 --> 00:02:42,480 of great interest so i guess we'll start 74 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:43,680 with um 75 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:45,840 uh we'll go to our personal story second 76 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:46,959 i think that'll be the 77 00:02:50,630 --> 00:02:49,760 good way to uh wrap things up but other 78 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:50,640 than that 79 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:53,040 you know i have one that i'm gonna bring 80 00:02:58,869 --> 00:02:55,599 up that's really always unsettled me 81 00:03:01,430 --> 00:02:58,879 and um dives into the more spiritual 82 00:03:02,309 --> 00:03:01,440 um aspects of my life personally but i 83 00:03:04,229 --> 00:03:02,319 wanna hear from you 84 00:03:05,750 --> 00:03:04,239 what is the weirdest creepiest story 85 00:03:07,830 --> 00:03:05,760 you've come across jason that you'd like 86 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:07,840 to share today 87 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,920 when it comes to ghosts or you know 88 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:12,400 supernatural things 89 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:15,760 there's no end to just absolute 90 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:18,400 spooky or or disturbing or unsettling 91 00:03:23,190 --> 00:03:20,159 things i mean they're things that are 92 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:23,200 paranormal they're outside of our normal 93 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:25,680 and you know a lot of these things they 94 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:26,239 just 95 00:03:33,190 --> 00:03:29,440 baffle your mind and you know they defy 96 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:33,200 explanation and leave you unsettled so 97 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:34,560 you know thinking about this when you 98 00:03:38,710 --> 00:03:36,560 asked me to to do this 99 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,720 um i was thinking of unsettling and 100 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:40,319 something with with ghosts that 101 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:42,879 you know it it's always fascinated me it 102 00:03:47,110 --> 00:03:44,319 makes me laugh a little 103 00:03:48,070 --> 00:03:47,120 but at the same time it is unsettling 104 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,080 and that 105 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:51,360 is the seemingly large number 106 00:03:55,910 --> 00:03:54,640 of paranormal cases involving ghosts and 107 00:03:59,830 --> 00:03:55,920 restrooms 108 00:04:01,830 --> 00:03:59,840 as this safe space you know that's our 109 00:04:02,789 --> 00:04:01,840 personal time we go into the restroom 110 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:02,799 alone 111 00:04:06,630 --> 00:04:05,280 that's that's our time we don't expect 112 00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:06,640 to to be 113 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:09,840 disturbed by anyone especially a ghost 114 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:11,920 so there are so many cases involving 115 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,280 ghosts and restrooms and 116 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:15,200 those cases you know always always pique 117 00:04:17,749 --> 00:04:17,040 my interest you know they they catch my 118 00:04:20,789 --> 00:04:17,759 eye 119 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:20,799 and um i guess um 120 00:04:24,310 --> 00:04:23,840 for today's purpose there are two that 121 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:24,320 were 122 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:27,199 you know just years apart and they in 123 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:28,000 bangladesh 124 00:04:31,110 --> 00:04:29,120 and i don't know if this is a normal 125 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:31,120 thing in bangladesh but you know it 126 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:33,040 seems to it seems to be several stories 127 00:04:35,749 --> 00:04:34,320 involving ghosts and bathrooms in 128 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:35,759 bangladesh but 129 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:39,440 one was in 2015 and it involved 130 00:04:44,310 --> 00:04:42,320 a school with with children and so in 131 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:44,320 2015 there was an 11 year old 132 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:47,120 student who after using the toilet at a 133 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:49,199 government primary school 134 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,720 um in the town of pavna pavna bangladesh 135 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:54,880 um she got sick after after using the 136 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:56,080 toilet 137 00:05:01,670 --> 00:05:00,160 she died the next day that's pretty bad 138 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:01,680 and then according to the school 139 00:05:06,310 --> 00:05:03,840 headmaster other students 140 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:06,320 started getting sick after using that 141 00:05:09,029 --> 00:05:08,000 toilet approximately eight to ten 142 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:09,039 students 143 00:05:13,029 --> 00:05:11,759 who either used that toilet or had been 144 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:13,039 in the bathroom had been near that 145 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:13,840 toilet 146 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:17,199 they got really sick so okay 147 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:18,560 getting sick from using a toilet what 148 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:20,320 does that have to do with the ghost well 149 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:21,840 there was a supposedly a legend at the 150 00:05:26,790 --> 00:05:23,840 school where 151 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:26,800 are a legend about a ghost who lived in 152 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:28,080 a palm tree outside 153 00:05:31,110 --> 00:05:29,600 and i don't know how they established 154 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:31,120 that this ghost lived 155 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,880 in the palm tree you know maybe somebody 156 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:34,240 was communicating with this ghost and 157 00:05:36,469 --> 00:05:35,840 the ghost said you know this is my house 158 00:05:39,670 --> 00:05:36,479 i 159 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:39,680 anyway 160 00:05:44,790 --> 00:05:43,280 the the the rumor or the the the legend 161 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:44,800 at the school was that a ghost lived in 162 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:46,320 this palm tree 163 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:49,600 and so that was already going around 164 00:05:52,950 --> 00:05:51,120 then the students started getting sick 165 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,960 from using the restroom 166 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:55,039 and people started freaking out because 167 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:57,280 they believed that this palm tree ghost 168 00:06:01,830 --> 00:05:59,680 had moved into the bathroom and nobody 169 00:06:04,950 --> 00:06:01,840 wants a ghost living in the bathroom 170 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,960 so the ghost panic spread and students 171 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,479 just stop coming to school 172 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:08,560 because who wants to go to school where 173 00:06:14,390 --> 00:06:10,080 there's ghosts in the bathroom 174 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,400 so officials shut the school down and 175 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:16,240 just like they would do in in the united 176 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:18,000 states 177 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:19,520 i'm being sarcastic here they held 178 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:21,120 religious ceremony 179 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:23,120 to remove the ghosts from the restroom 180 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:24,880 and apparently it worked because 181 00:06:27,909 --> 00:06:26,960 there were reportedly no more reports of 182 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:27,919 people getting sick 183 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,360 or encounters with the ghost in the 184 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:31,840 bathroom so that's fascinating 185 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:35,280 but then two years before that in 2013 186 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:36,720 100 miles away 187 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:41,120 in gazapur bangladesh a worker got sick 188 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:42,720 after using the restroom in a garment 189 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:45,039 factory and 190 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:47,280 she didn't actually see a ghost at least 191 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:48,479 that she didn't report 192 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,720 actually seeing a ghost when she was 193 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:52,639 doing her business in the bathroom 194 00:06:55,749 --> 00:06:54,800 but she still accused the ghost of 195 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:55,759 attacking her 196 00:06:59,909 --> 00:06:59,120 and making her sick so reports from 197 00:07:02,070 --> 00:06:59,919 other workers 198 00:07:04,150 --> 00:07:02,080 started pouring in about infections 199 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:04,160 caused by this ghost in the bathroom 200 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:05,759 i don't know if that's an excuse for 201 00:07:10,309 --> 00:07:07,599 like i don't know 202 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:10,319 doing other things in the bathroom dirty 203 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:10,800 you know 204 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:13,440 dirty toilet seat yeah yeah exactly i 205 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:15,039 mean maybe a dirty toilet seat is a 206 00:07:18,550 --> 00:07:16,240 ghost like yeah 207 00:07:19,430 --> 00:07:18,560 something's magical there could be other 208 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:19,440 things there but 209 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:21,039 for whatever reason whatever half these 210 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:22,560 people they were they were 211 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,560 complaining that ghosts in the bathrooms 212 00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:26,319 were making them sick 213 00:07:30,309 --> 00:07:28,560 and these reports weren't isolated to 214 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:30,319 just a single factory 215 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:32,400 there were hundreds of reports coming in 216 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:34,880 from other garment factories in the area 217 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:36,240 where people were reporting these 218 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:38,080 haunted toilets um 219 00:07:43,670 --> 00:07:42,080 and people got so frustrated that uh 220 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:43,680 you know for the at the management for 221 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:46,080 not taking action so they literally 222 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:48,319 lost their [\h__\h] and they started 223 00:07:51,909 --> 00:07:49,520 demolishing 224 00:07:53,510 --> 00:07:51,919 the restrooms at these factories because 225 00:07:54,629 --> 00:07:53,520 management wasn't going to do anything 226 00:07:56,629 --> 00:07:54,639 they didn't want anything to do with 227 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:56,639 these these restrooms so they demolished 228 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:58,560 the restrooms that's a 229 00:08:03,270 --> 00:08:01,680 pretty intense there but so just like 230 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,280 the school 231 00:08:07,350 --> 00:08:05,520 in padna the the factory managers got 232 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,360 together and decided they needed to 233 00:08:10,950 --> 00:08:09,759 address the situation so they held 234 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:10,960 religious ceremonies 235 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:12,240 to remove the ghosts from these 236 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:14,560 bathrooms so 237 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:17,759 wow i mean talk about kind of uh 238 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:21,120 an interesting exorcism of sorts i guess 239 00:08:29,830 --> 00:08:22,639 right i mean talk about a shitty 240 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:31,589 i need to do some ghost hunting in 241 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:32,880 bathrooms 242 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:35,680 yeah exactly man that's that's so 243 00:08:40,149 --> 00:08:36,479 interesting i 244 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:40,159 um i just interviewed uh lopaka kapanui 245 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:42,399 he's a master ghost storyteller here 246 00:08:47,750 --> 00:08:45,839 on oahu and as he's telling me these 247 00:08:49,509 --> 00:08:47,760 stories i couldn't help but notice a 248 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:49,519 pattern that a lot of them take place in 249 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:50,640 bathrooms 250 00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:52,320 and he was telling me stories about you 251 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:54,720 know the faceless woman this japanese 252 00:08:58,949 --> 00:08:55,920 kind of myth 253 00:08:59,269 --> 00:08:58,959 and ghost story that was kind of you 254 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:59,279 know 255 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:01,120 immigrated over to hawaii with all the 256 00:09:05,190 --> 00:09:02,800 japanese culture 257 00:09:05,990 --> 00:09:05,200 and everything here uh filipino culture 258 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:06,000 as well but 259 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:07,760 yeah it always seems to be bathrooms 260 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:10,399 where this faceless woman is seen or um 261 00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:13,440 i remember just this morning i i heard 262 00:09:18,870 --> 00:09:16,480 cases out of japan again where like 263 00:09:19,829 --> 00:09:18,880 a little girl ghost would be in a 264 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:19,839 bathroom 265 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:21,920 and she'd be sitting on a stall when you 266 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:23,200 open the door 267 00:09:29,190 --> 00:09:26,800 and she had no legs um so supposedly 268 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:29,200 you know back in the day uh um during 269 00:09:34,550 --> 00:09:31,680 world war ii a bomb exploded near this 270 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:34,560 school and um it actually she was in the 271 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:36,480 restroom at the time and it 272 00:09:39,910 --> 00:09:38,880 the building became demolished from the 273 00:09:42,710 --> 00:09:39,920 bomb and it 274 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:42,720 severed her legs off and very sad so 275 00:09:46,310 --> 00:09:44,480 apparently the tale is that 276 00:09:48,150 --> 00:09:46,320 um when you go in a bathroom in japan 277 00:09:50,230 --> 00:09:48,160 and go into a ladies restroom 278 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:50,240 if you open that door and there's a 279 00:09:53,829 --> 00:09:52,000 ghost with no legs get out of there 280 00:09:56,949 --> 00:09:53,839 because she wants your legs 281 00:09:58,550 --> 00:09:56,959 and that's just yeah 282 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:58,560 yeah that one really stuck with me so 283 00:10:02,389 --> 00:10:00,640 i'm that's so interesting i'm glad you 284 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:02,399 brought those to us we'll have to do a 285 00:10:05,269 --> 00:10:02,800 uh 286 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,279 rogue planet ghost town in bangladesh 287 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:06,800 yeah i think that sounds like a good 288 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:07,440 plan 289 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:10,800 and you know i i mean i don't know 290 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:14,320 how things work in the ghost world 291 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:17,760 and what makes the rules as to where you 292 00:10:21,430 --> 00:10:18,079 get 293 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:21,440 stuck right right 294 00:10:24,550 --> 00:10:23,680 i would like to think that if you're a 295 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:24,560 ghost 296 00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:28,880 who winds up being stuck in a bathroom 297 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:31,040 that you were a really terrible person 298 00:10:33,910 --> 00:10:32,240 right i mean you 299 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:33,920 like to think that the the most terrible 300 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:36,160 people are the ones who get assigned to 301 00:10:40,310 --> 00:10:37,839 be trapped in a bathroom 302 00:10:42,470 --> 00:10:40,320 yeah that would be an awful way to live 303 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:42,480 out your existence as a ghost 304 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:44,959 i would have to agree that in the dmv 305 00:10:48,630 --> 00:10:46,000 those are the two places 306 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:48,640 you do not want to haunt for sure oh man 307 00:10:51,990 --> 00:10:49,200 um 308 00:10:52,550 --> 00:10:52,000 well okay so dmv would be okay as long 309 00:10:55,350 --> 00:10:52,560 as you're not 310 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:55,360 a customer in line there right right 311 00:10:59,829 --> 00:10:57,040 great people watching 312 00:11:01,829 --> 00:10:59,839 that's true that's true yeah yeah we'll 313 00:11:04,550 --> 00:11:01,839 mark that one off bathrooms it is 314 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:04,560 definitely the worst um well i did 315 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:05,120 mention 316 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:06,880 exorcism and that's kind of where my 317 00:11:10,389 --> 00:11:08,320 story veers into 318 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:10,399 this is a topic that's always terrified 319 00:11:12,870 --> 00:11:11,519 me ever since 320 00:11:14,790 --> 00:11:12,880 just like every other person on the 321 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:14,800 planet i saw the exorcist 322 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:17,839 for the first time um and 323 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,920 you know growing up roman catholic this 324 00:11:23,990 --> 00:11:21,279 was a big 325 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:24,000 part of my life religion and you know 326 00:11:26,550 --> 00:11:24,880 good and evil 327 00:11:27,990 --> 00:11:26,560 and and you know i'd always heard 328 00:11:30,310 --> 00:11:28,000 stories in church about 329 00:11:31,509 --> 00:11:30,320 like possessions having occurred at our 330 00:11:34,389 --> 00:11:31,519 church even 331 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:34,399 or even miracles occurring uh things 332 00:11:37,590 --> 00:11:35,839 like stigmata and 333 00:11:39,269 --> 00:11:37,600 and things of that nature which was just 334 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,279 as terrifying to me like 335 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,120 yeah people consider it miraculous but 336 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,360 like again it's things you don't 337 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:45,680 you fear it because you don't understand 338 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:47,120 it um 339 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:49,200 so the one that really sticks with me 340 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:50,720 man is um 341 00:11:54,790 --> 00:11:53,440 the case of anneliese mikhail or mikel i 342 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:54,800 don't know how to pronounce it but this 343 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:56,160 is what the movie 344 00:12:02,310 --> 00:11:59,200 the exorcism of emily rose was based on 345 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:02,320 um but the true story was was actually 346 00:12:06,790 --> 00:12:04,560 extremely unsettling the movie was 347 00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:06,800 terrifying i love love love the movie 348 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:08,399 if anyone hasn't seen it go check it out 349 00:12:13,030 --> 00:12:10,639 have you seen it i have 350 00:12:14,870 --> 00:12:13,040 okay okay yeah i love it was kind of 351 00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:14,880 like a courtroom drama and a horror 352 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:15,760 movie all 353 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:17,600 put into one which i thought was cool 354 00:12:20,230 --> 00:12:19,680 but yeah i'm kind of just gonna run 355 00:12:22,150 --> 00:12:20,240 through it 356 00:12:23,350 --> 00:12:22,160 the cliff notes version here but um this 357 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:23,360 happened in germany 358 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:25,680 back in the early 70s this young girl 359 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:26,880 named annelise 360 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:29,040 she uh when she was 16 she started 361 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:30,240 having really bad 362 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:33,920 uh epileptic she's seizures and um 363 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:35,600 you know complaints of being sick all 364 00:12:39,350 --> 00:12:37,680 the time and they brought her to the 365 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:39,360 doctors and they they like couldn't 366 00:12:42,389 --> 00:12:40,720 figure out what was going on 367 00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,399 and what was wrong and they kind of 368 00:12:47,829 --> 00:12:44,560 diagnosed her with these um 369 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:47,839 the temporal lobe epilepsy and uh 370 00:12:51,509 --> 00:12:49,440 the years went on and they went on and 371 00:12:54,550 --> 00:12:51,519 then when she turned 20 372 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:54,560 she became severely depressed uh this is 373 00:12:58,710 --> 00:12:56,320 interesting she started 374 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:58,720 rejecting all of these religious symbols 375 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:00,639 in their home they were christian 376 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,720 um you know almost like completely 377 00:13:06,790 --> 00:13:04,560 disgusted by them 378 00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:06,800 she started hearing voices in her head 379 00:13:12,069 --> 00:13:09,440 so these are all signs of something bad 380 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:12,079 you know whether it's exorcism or 381 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:13,040 schizophrenia 382 00:13:16,710 --> 00:13:14,800 like something was really bad and they 383 00:13:18,790 --> 00:13:16,720 brought her to so many doctors 384 00:13:19,990 --> 00:13:18,800 psychiatrists and they couldn't pin 385 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:20,000 anything down 386 00:13:25,990 --> 00:13:23,360 and her parents they had no other choice 387 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:26,000 in their eyes than to request an 388 00:13:31,750 --> 00:13:28,480 exorcism from the catholic church 389 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:31,760 so it took him years to finally get this 390 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:33,760 going the vatican was very strict and 391 00:13:36,389 --> 00:13:34,800 said no no no 392 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:36,399 no so they you know they do an 393 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:38,480 investigation before they come in to 394 00:13:43,590 --> 00:13:41,680 do an exorcism officially and uh like i 395 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:43,600 said took them years finally they send 396 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:46,000 two priests to the home in germany to do 397 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:47,279 the exorcism 398 00:13:51,069 --> 00:13:50,000 and that's where things just got super 399 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:51,079 messy 400 00:13:57,910 --> 00:13:54,720 65 exorcism sessions with this girl 401 00:13:59,910 --> 00:13:57,920 over the span of 10 months brutally 402 00:14:01,750 --> 00:13:59,920 trying to exercise whatever demon or 403 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:01,760 whatever was 404 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:04,560 inside of her and i mean it's terrifying 405 00:14:09,430 --> 00:14:05,600 man we have 406 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:09,440 um images and photos of her during the 407 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:13,440 exorcism um they're just very disturbing 408 00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:15,040 to look at there's audio 409 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:17,120 of her during the exorcisms being 410 00:14:21,269 --> 00:14:18,800 possessed which is 411 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:21,279 unbelievably terrifying i'll i'm 412 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:22,560 actually going to play a little bit of 413 00:14:45,810 --> 00:14:30,650 it here for everyone right now 414 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:52,650 [Music] 415 00:14:58,530 --> 00:14:56,829 [Applause] 416 00:14:59,940 --> 00:14:58,540 me 417 00:15:17,829 --> 00:14:59,950 [Music] 418 00:15:21,910 --> 00:15:21,110 so yeah that it just gives me severe 419 00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:21,920 chills 420 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,279 um so what ended up happening after 421 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:27,600 you know about 10 months of this she was 422 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:28,560 losing weight 423 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:31,680 she would not eat um it just got worse 424 00:15:35,829 --> 00:15:32,639 and worse 425 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:35,839 and she died she died 426 00:15:42,389 --> 00:15:39,440 after one of these sessions and 427 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,399 she was malnutrition she was um 428 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:44,720 dehydrated and that's what they said the 429 00:15:49,670 --> 00:15:46,240 cause of death was 430 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:49,680 and you know what do you do after that 431 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:51,839 i mean apparently this is because of the 432 00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:53,360 exorcism but 433 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:56,079 uh the you know the german police 434 00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:57,199 thought differently 435 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,959 and they actually arrested both the 436 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:01,199 priests and the parents 437 00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:04,320 for negligent homicide and the priests 438 00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,839 had to go to trial 439 00:16:08,949 --> 00:16:07,600 for this thing which is again is a big 440 00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:08,959 part of the movie 441 00:16:14,629 --> 00:16:12,959 um and they were sent to jail 442 00:16:16,629 --> 00:16:14,639 um they only did about six months for 443 00:16:18,949 --> 00:16:16,639 homicide which is pretty damn good 444 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:18,959 if you ask me um but they are priests 445 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:19,839 they seem to get 446 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:22,320 away with a lot uh that's another story 447 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:23,120 but um 448 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:25,519 yeah man this one just always always 449 00:16:28,629 --> 00:16:26,639 gets me um and then 450 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,639 this morning when i was looking at this 451 00:16:32,470 --> 00:16:29,839 case there was 452 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:32,480 actually some updates um during the 453 00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:34,079 investigation a lot of people didn't 454 00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:35,440 know this but they actually 455 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,639 exhumed the body of anneliese and we're 456 00:16:42,389 --> 00:16:40,560 not exactly sure why 457 00:16:44,310 --> 00:16:42,399 the parents said it was because they 458 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:44,320 buried her in a rush 459 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:46,880 um in a really cheap coffin so they 460 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:48,720 wanted to give her a proper coffin so 461 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:49,440 they 462 00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,519 exhumed it put her in a much more 463 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:53,360 expensive luxury 464 00:16:57,749 --> 00:16:56,560 coffin and buried her um but i 465 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:57,759 have a feeling it had something to do 466 00:17:00,470 --> 00:16:58,959 with the investigation like they 467 00:17:03,910 --> 00:17:00,480 actually had to go in and 468 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:03,920 figure stuff out uh but then the most uh 469 00:17:08,710 --> 00:17:04,959 updated thing here 470 00:17:09,590 --> 00:17:08,720 is in 2013 in the home where this all 471 00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:09,600 happened 472 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:13,199 it burned down and we don't know if this 473 00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:14,079 is arson 474 00:17:18,309 --> 00:17:16,160 but a lot of people believe it was 475 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:18,319 because of what occurred in the home 476 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:21,120 and something was left behind to burn 477 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:22,640 that place to the ground 478 00:17:26,069 --> 00:17:25,520 i i can't tell you what who why but that 479 00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,079 happened 480 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:28,160 so yeah man again the one that really 481 00:17:32,870 --> 00:17:30,480 got to me with this is the movie was my 482 00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:32,880 gateway into this case but now i'm just 483 00:17:36,390 --> 00:17:35,039 fascinated by it and terrified because 484 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:36,400 of the audio 485 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:39,120 and the photos and and this poor girl 486 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:40,720 like no matter what if she was possessed 487 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:41,360 or not 488 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:43,440 she suffered greatly because of this and 489 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:44,880 lost her life so 490 00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:47,039 go it shows how far the church will go 491 00:17:49,510 --> 00:17:48,000 to try to 492 00:17:51,029 --> 00:17:49,520 you know and they did this whole thing 493 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:51,039 in secret i forgot to mention that the 494 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:52,160 vatican said yes 495 00:17:55,350 --> 00:17:54,080 you can do it do it in secret but now 496 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:55,360 it's one of the most 497 00:17:58,549 --> 00:17:57,840 out there cases we know of and um 498 00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:58,559 germany 499 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:00,640 really put the lock down on exorcisms 500 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:02,640 after that they were like nope we're 501 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:03,520 done we're done 502 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:05,440 so yeah what do you think what do you 503 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:08,080 think about exorcisms jason 504 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:11,200 i don't know man i mean there's 505 00:18:15,190 --> 00:18:13,600 definitely uh you know plenty of 506 00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:15,200 documentation on it 507 00:18:21,029 --> 00:18:18,559 and i mean until you f 508 00:18:22,870 --> 00:18:21,039 you're physically there in person 509 00:18:24,710 --> 00:18:22,880 witnessing something like that 510 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:24,720 um that'll change your mind about 511 00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:26,320 anything i mean that's true for for 512 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:28,160 anything with ufos with ghosts with 513 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:29,280 anything i mean it's 514 00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:32,240 personal experiences um you need to have 515 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:33,520 personal experiences 516 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:36,640 to to truly have your mind changed about 517 00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:37,360 something 518 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,320 or to even give you enough to to form a 519 00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,559 solid opinion on it 520 00:18:45,669 --> 00:18:44,640 you know for me i just just know what 521 00:18:49,430 --> 00:18:45,679 i've read 522 00:18:52,789 --> 00:18:49,440 obviously what i've seen on movies um 523 00:18:55,270 --> 00:18:52,799 it's like with with uh i equate it to 524 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:55,280 alien abductions right i mean there is 525 00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:56,000 genuinely 526 00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:59,120 something there what that is i 527 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,640 have no idea i just know the people to 528 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,160 whom these things happen or 529 00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:06,720 the people who allege these things have 530 00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:08,160 happened 531 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:12,000 that is i don't know 532 00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:13,840 so with exorcisms you know there's 533 00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,919 there's definitely something going on 534 00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:17,919 with the people and you know in these 535 00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:19,679 these cases where 536 00:19:24,310 --> 00:19:22,160 real exorcisms have taken place what 537 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:24,320 that is i don't know i'm sure in some 538 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:25,600 cases 539 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:28,000 there's some faking going on in other 540 00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:29,120 cases 541 00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:30,320 you could be dealing with mental 542 00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,799 disorders but other cases 543 00:19:35,990 --> 00:19:34,320 you know they don't really fit into 544 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:36,000 those boxes so neatly 545 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:38,320 so um you know it was just one of those 546 00:19:41,110 --> 00:19:39,679 one of those mysteries one of those 547 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:41,120 unknowns and 548 00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:43,919 you know it's again we want to want to 549 00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:45,280 equate things to other things 550 00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,520 you're trying to get tying it into ufos 551 00:19:49,510 --> 00:19:48,880 you know with the catholic church i 552 00:19:51,510 --> 00:19:49,520 understand 553 00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:51,520 it's like the us government with ufos 554 00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,640 right i mean 555 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,559 they don't have any idea what the hell 556 00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:56,320 is going on i think right 557 00:20:02,149 --> 00:19:59,760 is the real answer and so you know 558 00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:02,159 they don't want the world to think that 559 00:20:05,990 --> 00:20:02,799 they don't 560 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:06,000 have all the answers um so you got to 561 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,520 kind of keep the lid on that not really 562 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:09,200 talk about it all that much 563 00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:11,760 yeah exactly that's a really good 564 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,640 comparison 565 00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:14,240 i never really thought of it that way 566 00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:16,159 yeah you know the catholic church 567 00:20:20,149 --> 00:20:17,840 thinks they're doing the right thing and 568 00:20:22,149 --> 00:20:20,159 that they're in control of the situation 569 00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,159 until a death occurs and then it's like 570 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:24,480 wow yeah none of us truly know and i 571 00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:25,360 think you're right i think it's a 572 00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:26,799 case-to-case basis 573 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:29,360 for sure and the mind is very powerful 574 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:30,559 so if this girl thought she was 575 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,520 possessed 576 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,360 she could probably make herself 577 00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:34,720 possessed in a way 578 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:36,880 um but it is powerful and it's 579 00:20:42,149 --> 00:20:39,039 incredibly complex and confusing 580 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,159 i mean just just look at what 581 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:44,799 you know different mental disorders do 582 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:45,840 um 583 00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,440 i mean we have we've barely scratched 584 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:51,039 the surface of understanding 585 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:54,320 the human brain yeah you know who's to 586 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,720 say 587 00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:56,559 what's really going on but i think i 588 00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:58,000 think you're right case-by-case basis i 589 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:59,039 think a lot of different things are 590 00:21:02,549 --> 00:21:00,400 going on 591 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,559 agreed agreed all right well we'll leave 592 00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:04,640 it at that as our creepiest stories we 593 00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,840 came across but 594 00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,320 i want to know those were ones we heard 595 00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:10,080 about but these are the ones we've 596 00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,600 lived so jason any stories you can share 597 00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,440 with us about weird stuff that's occur 598 00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,200 happened to you um i know you've 599 00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:19,360 traveled all over you've seen some stuff 600 00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,159 man so 601 00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:21,520 what are you willing to share with us 602 00:21:27,430 --> 00:21:24,080 today well for today 603 00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:27,440 uh because i mentioned toilet ghost 604 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,559 um this one is not so satisfying but 605 00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,400 uh you know i do have my own my own 606 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:34,159 toilet ghost story 607 00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:37,760 and it sounds ridiculous but i promise 608 00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:41,280 this actually happened and i promise 609 00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:44,960 that i genuinely believe that 610 00:21:51,669 --> 00:21:49,200 it was not something normal so 611 00:21:53,430 --> 00:21:51,679 but i have to preface this by saying i 612 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,440 believe i was only four years old at the 613 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,960 time 614 00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:57,520 but with that being the case i still 615 00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:58,080 remember 616 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:05,029 so i was a four-year-old boy sitting on 617 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:06,559 the toilet 618 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:10,000 and my family was living in a in an 619 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:11,360 apartment at that time 620 00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:15,280 and um yeah very small apartment 621 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,039 and i was sitting on the toilet and 622 00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,919 i think i had just about finished doing 623 00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:23,760 what i was going to do 624 00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,600 and the ceiling fan a voice emerged from 625 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,120 the ceiling fan 626 00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,960 and at least that's what it seemed like 627 00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:32,559 it was coming from above 628 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,679 and the voice said 629 00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:38,480 wipe your butt and get out of here i 630 00:22:42,470 --> 00:22:40,720 remember that distinctly 631 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:42,480 this mysterious voice you said wipe your 632 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:44,880 butt and get out of here 633 00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:48,880 it freaked me out so much that i 634 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,919 left off the toilet went screaming out 635 00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:53,520 of the bathroom with my 636 00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:57,520 pants at my ankles screaming and crying 637 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,440 to my dad and my dad you know rationally 638 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:03,760 thought somebody's messing around on the 639 00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:04,640 roof 640 00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:09,919 he looked all around the property 641 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:13,039 around the complex nobody was outside 642 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:15,280 there was nobody around so he didn't see 643 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:16,720 anybody 644 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,320 um you know certainly it is possible 645 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,640 that someone was up there playing a 646 00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:24,720 prank playing a joke on me 647 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:28,320 but certainly nobody that my dad's on he 648 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:29,679 was out there right away 649 00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:32,880 it was a pretty you know good good field 650 00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:34,640 of view from out there you could see if 651 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,240 if people were out milling about or 652 00:23:41,190 --> 00:23:38,240 certainly running away 653 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,200 he didn't see anybody but i think the 654 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279 rational explanation is it was probably 655 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:45,440 someone we didn't see 656 00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:48,640 however at the time you know 657 00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:52,159 it was something that terrified me and 658 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:52,559 uh 659 00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:55,360 you know there was no explanation for it 660 00:23:59,190 --> 00:23:55,919 after 661 00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:59,200 people so 662 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,960 that that spooked me i don't know if 663 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:03,039 that's really a ghost 664 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,520 encounter but had to throw that in there 665 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:07,440 because of our toilet ghost conversation 666 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,080 earlier 667 00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,559 but i will say yes i have had the great 668 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:11,840 fortune to be on 669 00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:14,640 a few actually several ghost hunts um to 670 00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,679 this point 671 00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,159 and i don't know what it is man but i 672 00:24:22,470 --> 00:24:20,480 gotta say with with whether it's ufos or 673 00:24:22,870 --> 00:24:22,480 ghosts or whatever i'm doing i mean i 674 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,880 guess i 675 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,200 haven't had luck with bigfoot yet but i 676 00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:27,200 mean i've had pretty good luck 677 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:29,520 you know having sightings or being able 678 00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,640 to experience things 679 00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:32,559 on the majority of the times i actively 680 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:34,400 go looking for this stuff 681 00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,760 so what i'll talk about right now is is 682 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,039 in uh 2011 my wife and i went to 683 00:24:45,029 --> 00:24:43,440 prescott arizona which is in in sort of 684 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:45,039 northern arizona 685 00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:48,080 and we stayed at a place called 686 00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:51,039 the haciampa inn this place is well 687 00:24:56,070 --> 00:24:52,640 known for being haunted 688 00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:56,080 it was built in 1927 and that same year 689 00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:58,000 that it opened 690 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:01,279 a young woman named faith essay 691 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:04,240 she recently married a much older man 692 00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:04,960 and 693 00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,799 were staying at the uh 694 00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:10,400 in the grand balcony suite there for 695 00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:14,000 their honeymoon so they checked in there 696 00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:17,360 and after they had some marital fun um 697 00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:20,799 the husband went out for cigarettes 698 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,159 and he never came back so 699 00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:27,200 you know it's not known whether this was 700 00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:28,400 his plan all along 701 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:31,200 to marry this young woman have his way 702 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:31,840 with her 703 00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:34,080 and then split or if he met with some 704 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,840 sort of foul play or something 705 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:38,159 but whatever the case may be he never 706 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,120 came back 707 00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:41,520 so she was absolutely distraught she 708 00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,400 waited 709 00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:45,279 for three days and you know after that 710 00:25:49,110 --> 00:25:46,320 time 711 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,120 he didn't come back she decided to take 712 00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:50,559 her own life she hung herself from the 713 00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:51,840 balcony 714 00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:55,120 and she haunts that hotel 715 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,640 to this day there are so many reports of 716 00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:00,880 you know people staying there who who 717 00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,840 see her 718 00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:03,840 and we're talking apparition i mean they 719 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:05,919 actually see this woman there this young 720 00:26:09,029 --> 00:26:07,440 woman sometimes she's holding flowers 721 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:09,039 sometimes they smell flowers in the 722 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:10,880 rooms 723 00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:13,440 the staff see her all the time the 724 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:14,559 kitchen staff will 725 00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:17,840 will see her you know actually see 726 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,640 her or also see effects that they 727 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:21,760 attribute to her 728 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,760 like stove burners turning on or off 729 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:29,200 um the the desk staff sees her you know 730 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:30,480 people who stay there 731 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,520 come down and and ask the 732 00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:36,240 the desk staff about like different 733 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:37,840 random things that you hear about like 734 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:39,679 tvs turning on and off 735 00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:42,240 um cold spots and rooms things like that 736 00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:43,760 and they're all oh yeah that's just 737 00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,559 faith 738 00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,240 it's just like a known thing to them 739 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:48,320 there they're used to having her there 740 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:50,320 so when my wife and i stayed there in 741 00:26:55,190 --> 00:26:52,000 2011 you know i certainly knew about 742 00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:55,200 this i was actively looking for strange 743 00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:56,559 things to happen 744 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,600 so when we we got in bed that night we 745 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:01,200 were hearing all sorts of things because 746 00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:03,520 again this hotel was built in 1927. 747 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:05,919 it's an old building everything creaks 748 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,360 everything squeaks 749 00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:09,279 there's air blowing all over the place 750 00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,400 because it's 751 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:12,880 horribly sealed you know all the things 752 00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:15,360 you expect from an old building 753 00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:18,159 but that night sometime and we hadn't 754 00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:19,679 been in bed that long 755 00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:23,279 i was certainly wide awake at that point 756 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,990 i had taken my glasses off and put them 757 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:31,200 on the nightstand 758 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,240 next to the bed we're sitting there 759 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:36,320 trying to fall asleep 760 00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:38,159 and we hear something you know we hear 761 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:39,360 all these other noises like i said i 762 00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,559 mean you could hear people walking 763 00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:42,559 outside and the floorboard squeaking 764 00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:45,360 and all that stuff but we heard 765 00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,799 something 766 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:48,559 hit the floor and we could tell that it 767 00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:50,080 was in our room 768 00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:53,679 so we both shot up turned the lights on 769 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,399 my glasses were on the other side of the 770 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000 room 771 00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,919 now had this been later in the night had 772 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:01,120 i been you know 773 00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:03,039 kind of drifting in and out of sleep i 774 00:28:07,510 --> 00:28:04,720 would say well maybe 775 00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:07,520 i like rolled and threw my arm and it 776 00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:09,760 hit the glasses and sent them flying 777 00:28:15,669 --> 00:28:13,039 but i haven't really ever done that 778 00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,679 as a sleeper i'm a pretty pretty uh good 779 00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:18,080 sleeper and that i don't toss and turn 780 00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:22,320 and we had just really gotten into bed 781 00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:25,440 we weren't dozing off you know so i'm 782 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:26,320 confident 783 00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:29,440 that it wasn't me flipping my arm on the 784 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,159 nightstand 785 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,240 and sending these glasses flying they 786 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,240 went all the way across the room 787 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,200 so i can't explain that that was one of 788 00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:38,720 the more fascinating 789 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:41,440 um you know experiences i've had with 790 00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:42,720 paranormal 791 00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:44,720 just because i can't explain it because 792 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:45,760 there was a physical 793 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:49,200 object that moved so it's kind of cool 794 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,120 yeah absolutely it reminds me i had um 795 00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,200 kind of a similar experience where i was 796 00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:57,120 home one day and my apartment in new 797 00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,000 york 798 00:29:03,190 --> 00:29:01,360 i'm in the other room writing and um uh 799 00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:03,200 jane my girlfriend was out of town at 800 00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:05,600 the time and we had this really nice 801 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,520 framed photo of us 802 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,840 on a dresser in the bedroom and i 803 00:29:14,710 --> 00:29:12,080 remember i'm in the other room mind you 804 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:14,720 it was winter there were no windows open 805 00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:16,159 nothing like that 806 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:19,840 um nothing you know off or 807 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,600 nothing going on and i'm just writing 808 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,960 and all of a sudden i hear 809 00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,960 glass chatter and i thought maybe 810 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,480 someone like tried to break into our 811 00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:28,320 apartment or something so i like 812 00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,200 get up i had a um i had a bat a baseball 813 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,039 bat at the time but i'm like 814 00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:35,039 who came up to the fifth floor to break 815 00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:36,799 in like that's pretty impressive 816 00:29:41,190 --> 00:29:39,440 but um no i'm looking everywhere nothing 817 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:41,200 nothing i go in the bedroom 818 00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:44,559 and the photo of us framed photo 819 00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:48,320 mind you is still like up upright on the 820 00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,039 dresser 821 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:51,520 but the glass completely shattered in it 822 00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,559 and 823 00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,520 it was weird it seemed like we'd have 824 00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:57,120 other stuff happen where we had like 825 00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,600 phantom 826 00:30:01,269 --> 00:30:00,080 smells in the apartment as well you know 827 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:01,279 these moments where you just smell 828 00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:02,720 something so 829 00:30:06,389 --> 00:30:04,799 like putrid or gross and you can't 830 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:06,399 explain where it came from 831 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,600 anything like that um but this was like 832 00:30:12,789 --> 00:30:11,120 super sturdy like the glass just 833 00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:12,799 shattered for no reason 834 00:30:16,149 --> 00:30:15,279 i was like oh my god uh so yeah that's 835 00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,159 cool 836 00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:18,399 i know that feeling of um literal 837 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:20,720 objects just doing something you 838 00:30:26,149 --> 00:30:24,399 can explain or understand so yeah wow 839 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:26,159 any anything else really stick out to 840 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:28,240 you in your times doing ghost hunts or 841 00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:30,720 anything like that 842 00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:33,919 i mean ghost hunts are fun man yeah they 843 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,559 are 844 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:37,200 you know i've like i said i mean i i've 845 00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,720 encountered quite a bit 846 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:40,480 of of interesting things many 847 00:30:45,269 --> 00:30:42,320 interesting things um 848 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:45,279 and that's why you know i think it's 849 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,760 it's 850 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:47,840 it draws more people and gets gets more 851 00:30:51,269 --> 00:30:50,240 attention than like ufo hunting because 852 00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:51,279 ufos 853 00:30:56,070 --> 00:30:54,880 you know it's you're you're you're lucky 854 00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:56,080 if you see one you know 855 00:30:59,830 --> 00:30:58,320 yeah like it's something that repeats 856 00:31:01,350 --> 00:30:59,840 really um 857 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,360 you know and there's not much to it with 858 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,120 ghost hunting you know they're 859 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,640 they're fun little toys you can play 860 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,799 with and you know just different things 861 00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,240 that uh that you can do 862 00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,159 and places you can go where you know 863 00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,159 they tend to have more 864 00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:14,559 recurrences of these these strange 865 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:15,760 phenomena 866 00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:19,200 so you know i've seen seen things move 867 00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,320 i've seen 868 00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:22,880 you know unexplainable things happen 869 00:31:26,310 --> 00:31:23,360 like 870 00:31:27,190 --> 00:31:26,320 gigantic heavy metal doors swinging 871 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:27,200 violently and 872 00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:30,399 slamming um you know 873 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,760 phantom footsteps uh you know flashing 874 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:34,640 lights just 875 00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:38,799 you know odd occurrences and 876 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:42,399 it is fun for people like us 877 00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:46,320 who are drawn to the unknown 878 00:31:52,950 --> 00:31:49,760 to these mysteries yeah it's 879 00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:52,960 it's creepy and i can't explain it but 880 00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:55,440 at the same time that's what we're 881 00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,200 looking for i mean we're 882 00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:59,360 we're after this stuff and it always 883 00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:01,039 makes me laugh and i have to remind 884 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:02,559 myself when i'm out looking for this 885 00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:02,960 stuff 886 00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,159 that hey man this is what what we're 887 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:08,000 looking for this is you know what we're 888 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:09,440 attracted to 889 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:12,799 if we see something like really scary 890 00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:15,120 like an apparition or something am i 891 00:32:19,269 --> 00:32:16,320 going to turn around and run 892 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:19,279 or am i going to go towards it yeah 893 00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,000 because i know 894 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,679 i've never understood that response from 895 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:23,360 people who are out actively ghost 896 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,240 hunting or 897 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,240 trying to get you know more data or more 898 00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,000 information and capture the stuff on 899 00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,760 film things like that when these scary 900 00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:31,600 things happen they hightail it out of 901 00:32:33,909 --> 00:32:32,799 there you don't know this is what you've 902 00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:33,919 been waiting 903 00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,760 that's why you're here because again 904 00:32:40,389 --> 00:32:37,760 with ghost hunts with ufo hunting 905 00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:40,399 like it's most of the time it's really 906 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,120 boring 907 00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:42,880 nothing's happening and you're just 908 00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:44,640 waiting for something to happen 909 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,399 so it takes a lot of patience but when 910 00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,240 that thing actually happens really 911 00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:50,000 you're gonna turn and run 912 00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:52,559 no i mean i understand that impulse like 913 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:53,440 i'm a wuss 914 00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,880 and you know i'd like to get out of 915 00:32:58,630 --> 00:32:56,799 there too but at the same time 916 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,640 this is what you're waiting for this is 917 00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:00,080 this type of stuff you've been looking 918 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:01,679 for so when it happens 919 00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:05,279 go to it not a waste yeah absolutely 920 00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,559 that's just like a mindset you've got to 921 00:33:08,870 --> 00:33:07,919 get yourself into when you're actually 922 00:33:11,909 --> 00:33:08,880 doing that 923 00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:11,919 yep yeah and as of this recording the la 924 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:14,159 dodgers just won the world series and it 925 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:14,480 uh 926 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:16,320 it always brings me back to baseball too 927 00:33:21,430 --> 00:33:17,760 i remember growing up 928 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:21,440 i uh i was afraid to swing 929 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:23,760 when i was on up to bat and i was known 930 00:33:27,110 --> 00:33:24,480 to be like 931 00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:27,120 oh ryan he's going to strike out again 932 00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:27,840 and again 933 00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:30,399 he's not going to swing and that's 934 00:33:32,950 --> 00:33:31,279 because i 935 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:32,960 was there to do something but i was 936 00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,039 afraid to do it and then i'll tell you 937 00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:37,039 man like that one time i finally 938 00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:38,080 connected and 939 00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:40,720 hit a home run it was history it was 940 00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:41,360 like 941 00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:44,799 so long to that aspect of it i was now 942 00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:45,519 hitting 943 00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,880 home runs left and right and you're 944 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,039 right you gotta embrace it and you're 945 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:50,799 there for that reason i'm not there to 946 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,000 strike out i'm there to 947 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:54,480 win the game so i i think there's 948 00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:56,240 interesting parallels between those two 949 00:33:59,190 --> 00:33:57,039 for sure 950 00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,200 and you're right we crave these things 951 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:01,120 so when it happens be thankful don't be 952 00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:01,840 scared 953 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,720 um but i guess i'll share mine with you 954 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,000 i'll try to make it brief because 955 00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:08,079 this did scare me even though i was 956 00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:09,520 there for a ghost time 957 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,839 but yeah i'll um i'll tell you this one 958 00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:13,520 quick and i'm sure some of my viewers 959 00:34:15,829 --> 00:34:14,720 and listeners have heard this one 960 00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:15,839 already but um 961 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,879 this happened to me back in 2017 962 00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:21,679 i was in nova scotia in canada i was 963 00:34:25,990 --> 00:34:22,960 there to do a um 964 00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,000 a lecture and uh it was 965 00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,720 cool really nice event they flew me in i 966 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,639 got to go to oak island and go on the 967 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,599 island and 968 00:34:35,750 --> 00:34:34,399 check that mysterious place out and uh 969 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:35,760 but the big thing for me 970 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,320 was going to my first ever ghost hunt 971 00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,320 and i was with micah hanks 972 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:43,119 and uh mutual colleague greg bishop 973 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,480 who's a ufo guy 974 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,800 and they decided to bring us all on this 975 00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:48,960 ghost hunt at the queens county museum 976 00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,839 in uh in the town of in nova scotia and 977 00:34:54,550 --> 00:34:53,359 um 978 00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:54,560 you know i didn't know what to expect 979 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:56,079 i'd never been to one of these things 980 00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:57,359 you know they had all the gadgets and 981 00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:58,160 gizmos they're 982 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,880 ready to get them going and i was pretty 983 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,880 skeptical and i always have been of the 984 00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,560 paranormal which is funny because i'm a 985 00:35:08,630 --> 00:35:05,760 ufo guy 986 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,640 and um me and micah were kind of just 987 00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:10,400 having a good time and like being like 988 00:35:13,510 --> 00:35:11,520 oh this will be fun 989 00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,520 and i remember distinctly leaving a 990 00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:15,280 group i was with at one point 991 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,560 because everyone kind of went off on 992 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,640 their own in the whole the whole complex 993 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:19,920 which was huge 994 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:22,240 and um i was just having a good time 995 00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,440 looking at the history 996 00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,440 of this area you know they have the um 997 00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,880 the indigenous people 998 00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:29,680 of the area the meek muck and uh really 999 00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:30,079 cool 1000 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,760 old arrowheads and everything you can 1001 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:33,839 think of in the integration of settlers 1002 00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:34,960 and blah blah blah 1003 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:36,480 but there was this one room in the 1004 00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:38,480 museum that was called the activity room 1005 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,440 and this is for 1006 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:41,040 kids who the parents could leave them in 1007 00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:42,400 there to play while they go and look at 1008 00:35:47,190 --> 00:35:43,599 the museum 1009 00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,200 and uh we got in this room and 1010 00:35:50,550 --> 00:35:49,119 we started using one of these spirit 1011 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,560 boxes this thing that goes through 1012 00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:52,800 frequencies radio frequencies 1013 00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:55,119 and um you catch words every now and 1014 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,400 again and it's supposed to 1015 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,560 string together to be a communication of 1016 00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:00,320 the spirit and again like these things 1017 00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,800 are 1018 00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:02,640 whatever you you can either buy into it 1019 00:36:07,589 --> 00:36:04,960 or not and i didn't really at the time 1020 00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:07,599 uh but i noticed at one point when we 1021 00:36:10,069 --> 00:36:08,720 were trying to communicate with 1022 00:36:13,349 --> 00:36:10,079 something in that room 1023 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:13,359 uh we heard and again this thing goes 1024 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,520 through radio frequencies like in 1025 00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,680 milliseconds a piece 1026 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,359 you're never supposed to hear like a 1027 00:36:23,829 --> 00:36:21,200 full transmission 1028 00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:23,839 or frequency for more than a few seconds 1029 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:24,320 and 1030 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,160 we heard the sound of a child 1031 00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,640 like whimpering or crying at least 1032 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:32,720 that's what we kind of contributed to 1033 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:35,520 but it was constant which made no sense 1034 00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,800 because that would mean that 1035 00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:38,720 it would have to have been on a million 1036 00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,079 different frequencies at the same 1037 00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:43,440 time uh so that was interesting 1038 00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,359 and i asked the person in charge of the 1039 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:46,960 ghost and i'm like it sounds like a 1040 00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,680 little girl 1041 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:49,920 like upset or something she's like yeah 1042 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:51,760 this is the activity room this is where 1043 00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,240 all the kids were so she might be scared 1044 00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:56,160 or um you know upset so 1045 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,320 maybe we should all like get down to her 1046 00:37:02,069 --> 00:36:59,760 level you know we're all these 1047 00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:02,079 grown adults and towering over her if 1048 00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,119 she's a spirit 1049 00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:05,920 so we all get down on the ground make 1050 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:06,960 ourselves you know 1051 00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:09,760 a little less uh threatening i guess and 1052 00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:10,240 um 1053 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,079 we start communicating again and we 1054 00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:14,320 started getting really clear messages on 1055 00:37:18,550 --> 00:37:15,119 this thing 1056 00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,560 and again i'm still under the 1057 00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,760 the idea that this could all be 1058 00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:21,599 coincidence and everything 1059 00:37:25,510 --> 00:37:24,160 and we turn the spirit box off and then 1060 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,520 we just kind of sit there for a little 1061 00:37:28,870 --> 00:37:27,040 while in silence and i'm kind of looking 1062 00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,880 throughout the room and everyone 1063 00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:30,880 you know taking it in being like oh i 1064 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,079 could i think they're the one who 1065 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,160 probably believes that person doesn't 1066 00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,560 and i was still very skeptical but i 1067 00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,560 remember sitting cross-legged i was in 1068 00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,119 like a corner of the room and all of a 1069 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:42,800 sudden it got super cold 1070 00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,040 in that corner and again i'm making 1071 00:37:48,069 --> 00:37:46,720 excuses there's probably a draft above 1072 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,079 me something i don't know 1073 00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:51,280 this building or this room well and once 1074 00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:52,800 i was in that cold spot 1075 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:56,960 i felt my legs like my knees go down 1076 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,160 and it felt like there was a weight 1077 00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,320 in my lap like something had sat in my 1078 00:38:05,589 --> 00:38:04,079 lap and that had never happened 1079 00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:05,599 to me before i've never felt anything 1080 00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:07,440 like that but my knees just hit the 1081 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:08,160 ground 1082 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:10,720 and then i felt like someone was hugging 1083 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,560 me like putting their arms around me 1084 00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:14,880 and i could feel their fingers clasped 1085 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:16,880 on the back back of my neck 1086 00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,520 and that was it like i i i had enough i 1087 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,880 like flung back 1088 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:23,760 and i felt like that weight lifted off 1089 00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,320 of me 1090 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,560 and rushed out of the room and what was 1091 00:38:30,470 --> 00:38:28,560 interesting is in that exact moment i 1092 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:30,480 look in the doorway of the room 1093 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,560 and greg bishop my very skeptical friend 1094 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:37,680 was in the doorway and he moved to the 1095 00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,160 side 1096 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:40,320 as if something had just run ran past 1097 00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,280 him 1098 00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,920 and i remember getting up and going up 1099 00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:45,440 and being like dude what 1100 00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,839 i saw you like react really weird when 1101 00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:49,200 you were in the doorway what was up with 1102 00:38:51,829 --> 00:38:49,839 that and he said 1103 00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,839 i just felt in that moment i had to move 1104 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:53,599 like something needed to get out 1105 00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:57,040 of that room really quick and that gave 1106 00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,160 me chills so 1107 00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,560 this was one that i will never forget it 1108 00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:02,240 wasn't about something i saw 1109 00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:05,839 or smelled or heard um over these 1110 00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,680 spirit boxes or whatever it was 1111 00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,359 literally something i felt 1112 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:11,040 and that's what stuck with me most i 1113 00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:13,760 don't know what it was who it was i'm 1114 00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:16,560 assuming it was a child of some sort who 1115 00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:19,119 was wanting to be comforted or to kind 1116 00:39:22,870 --> 00:39:20,320 of comfort us and say 1117 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,880 it's okay we're your friend but that was 1118 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,720 amazing man i never felt anything like 1119 00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:25,839 that before 1120 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,920 yeah that's intense that's it yeah 1121 00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:30,160 that's a physical contact 1122 00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:33,040 yep and it stuck with me i mean i i now 1123 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,800 am a firm believer that 1124 00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,720 it's very possible that there's energies 1125 00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:38,480 out there residual energies 1126 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,599 hanging out um just trying however they 1127 00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:43,280 can to communicate with us 1128 00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,960 and the thing that always sticks with me 1129 00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:46,480 is children 1130 00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:49,119 when it comes to ghosts now that in 1131 00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,240 itself is tragic 1132 00:39:54,790 --> 00:39:53,040 like no no person should die that young 1133 00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,800 and often it's probably because of an 1134 00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:56,640 illness or an accident 1135 00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,680 and children ghosts are often said to be 1136 00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,480 lost 1137 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,320 they don't know where they are or what's 1138 00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,400 happening where my parents 1139 00:40:07,829 --> 00:40:06,079 and that's heartbreaking when you really 1140 00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:07,839 think about it you know they're so 1141 00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,440 innocent they haven't even lived life 1142 00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,440 and it's gone in an instant so 1143 00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:12,880 i think there's something really special 1144 00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,359 to be said about child ghosts too what 1145 00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,440 do you think 1146 00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:20,319 yeah yeah and you know just thinking 1147 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:21,200 about 1148 00:40:26,309 --> 00:40:24,480 already you know based on the lore 1149 00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,319 all the the ghost stories and tales we 1150 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,079 hear um 1151 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,119 seem to be difficulty communicating yeah 1152 00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,880 ghosts aren't very good communicators 1153 00:40:36,069 --> 00:40:34,319 but you know 1154 00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:36,079 with that already being an issue then 1155 00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:37,839 bring children into it and children 1156 00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:41,040 trying to both navigate you know not 1157 00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,520 being 1158 00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,839 part of this world anymore um you know 1159 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:45,280 part of the the living world that we 1160 00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,000 know 1161 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:48,400 um and that they were used to and also 1162 00:40:52,069 --> 00:40:49,680 not understanding 1163 00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:52,079 whatever needs to be done you know to 1164 00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,480 bridge that communication gap 1165 00:40:57,750 --> 00:40:55,920 it's got to be challenging especially if 1166 00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:57,760 they're navigating it by themselves 1167 00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:00,400 yeah absolutely well i guess we'll leave 1168 00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:02,240 it at that man i've kept you way longer 1169 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:02,880 than i 1170 00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:04,720 anticipated this always happens when we 1171 00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,079 talk but no 1172 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:07,760 thank you for sharing those stories with 1173 00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:09,520 us today but before we go 1174 00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:12,240 tell us about rogue the rogue planet 1175 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,800 show 1176 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:14,800 um the podcast you're doing with amy 1177 00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:16,000 sheara and 1178 00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,920 everything else he got going on at rogue 1179 00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,000 planet yeah so we recently 1180 00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:22,960 launched a new video series on rogue 1181 00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:23,440 planet 1182 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:29,200 ryan you'll be a part of that very much 1183 00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,040 so 1184 00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:33,119 and you know like we talked about today 1185 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:34,079 it's going to 1186 00:41:38,309 --> 00:41:36,960 encompass a lot of what we do at rogue 1187 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:38,319 planet you know 1188 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:40,160 including all of our our various 1189 00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:41,359 interests which 1190 00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:44,240 include ufos but includes so much more 1191 00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:45,040 so 1192 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:48,960 ghost adventures that you mentioned ryan 1193 00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,720 and and some other things to you but we 1194 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,720 also have fun it's it's more of a casual 1195 00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:53,599 show it's 1196 00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:56,079 it's us getting to to hang out with each 1197 00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,040 other and 1198 00:42:03,430 --> 00:42:00,240 and with all of our our friends 1199 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,440 who also like these things and uh 1200 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,280 yeah it's a it's a good time so we just 1201 00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:07,280 started that and also 1202 00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:11,200 amy sure title and i are uh re-revamping 1203 00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:13,839 bringing back our our show that started 1204 00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:16,000 out as a podcast but it's just going to 1205 00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,319 be 1206 00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:18,160 solely a video series now it's called 1207 00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:21,040 the punk rocker moon stomper program 1208 00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:24,720 and that is also a show um 1209 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:26,800 with amy and i sharing our our mutual 1210 00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:29,280 love of random things that 1211 00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:32,720 that we do like punk music and ska music 1212 00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:36,560 and space and booze and video games 1213 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:39,599 and all sorts of things so yeah 1214 00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,920 look for that soon probably before the 1215 00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:43,280 end of the month 1216 00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:45,200 awesome well i'm clearly a fan of all 1217 00:42:49,109 --> 00:42:47,200 those things as well if you can't tell 1218 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:49,119 from the t-shirt but dude i love it you 1219 00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,359 even got the less than jake singer to do 1220 00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:53,040 your theme song is that right 1221 00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,440 yes yes krista makes uh was kind enough 1222 00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,440 to to do our theme song for punk rocker 1223 00:43:02,630 --> 00:42:59,920 moon stomper program so 1224 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:02,640 so jealous so jealous but also yeah very 1225 00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:03,119 proud 1226 00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:05,680 that's so cool man well hey let us know 1227 00:43:10,349 --> 00:43:07,359 where we can find everything 1228 00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:10,359 uh before you go if you could 1229 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,520 rogueplanet.tv 1230 00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:13,200 is always the best place to go for 1231 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,560 everything rogue planet 1232 00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:16,000 and like you mentioned at the beginning 1233 00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:18,960 the rogue planet uh youtube channel 1234 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:21,200 is filled with stuff and and getting 1235 00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:22,640 fuller by the day 1236 00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:27,200 so yeah that's just youtube.complanet 1237 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,359 perfect well jason thank you for joining 1238 00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:31,359 us today on somewhere in the spooky 1239 00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:32,079 skies 1240 00:43:43,350 --> 00:43:34,240 and also have a very happy halloween